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Delayed not denied ; elegant not erased ; frustration not failure

the Weight of Ignorance

the Discipline of Penance

the Structure of the Universe

Shani restricts and delays, but He rarely denies

Shani karaka for all things "duroshya" (slow) produces good results with maturity and


Master of "the Power of No", Lord Shani attempts to direct inner focus and attention toward the

prevention of irregular movements.

Shanicarya is loudly and repeatedly, often punitively, insistent in His announcement that due to

a scarcity of resources There is No Permission to Act Now.

Saturn has an emaciated and long physique, has tawny eyes,

is windy in temperament, has big teeth,

is indolent and lame, and has coarse hair.


 84:11

O Maitreya!

Contemplate of Shani with the lustre, like that of Indraneela,

with four arms,

carrying Shoola, bow, arrow and Vara,

mounted on a donkey.

(from Das)

"Adversities, captivity, difficulties, austere, enjoyment denied, barriers, bondage, deterrence,

black, blue, grey, dangers, destruction, dejection, depression, discipline, destroyer of

illusion, dreadful, terms, endless, helplessness, frustration, introverted, humiliation, martyrs,

inactive, lack of desire, low class ways/people, mental trouble, misery, misfortunes, monks,

sannyas, old persons, death, bones, persistent, patience, philosophers, profound poverty,

sorrows, power for austerity, profession in general , seriousness, slow, gradual, nature,

surrender, thin, lean, unattractive to worldly people, undesirable things, worker-class"

Topics of Shani

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 If Shani or Shani's lord is strong, one may recognize a need to control and protect his own

resources - emotional, physical, political - long before an actual attack.

Shani givesincreased responsibility. If one is by character wise and farsighted, he will realize at the

outset of any Shani period that

Overall Shani periods create a sense of lesser well-being. There is less trust and sharing; more fear and

hoarding. However, Shani increases wisdom and strengthens the moral character. His periods demand

privacy, isolation, stronger boundaries, and self-reliance in place of social approval.

Spiritual benefit of fear and abandonment (!)

During Shani periods one is typically forced to dig deeper within his body and mind in search of life-

sustaining power. No one else can help him.

 Ideally, one gets so "stressed out" while trying to super-humanly protect and sustain himself

that he turns to the Divine in frustration and despair.

 In this happy event, one discovers his eternal life force in the power of the Divine. His reptile

brain's relentless "fight or flight" signal is quelled, and Shani's job is done!

 The ancient karma of Abandonment and starvation-- which everyone has experienced in past

lives -- rises up from its long-suppressed subconscious container during Shani periods. Shani

periods therefore feel unusually fearful and self-protective, focused on survival basics of food,

clothing, and shelter; and skillfully defending one's own supply of life-sustaining energy Against

predatory others.

 "Staying alive" whether physically, mentally, or emotionally (and sometimes spiritually) will

seems to require isolation, self-reliance, and attention to basics. Ideally in this isolated state one

will, in desperation, seek the Divine.

Death vs. social/emotional separation

Shani is a karaka for separation -- but Shani periods only give physical deathwhen Shani is also radix L-2

or radix L-7.

 More often, Shani requires a metaphorical deathexpressed through separation in core

relationships. The separations may be physical but the effect is often more devastating if the

one experiences a psychological "freeze out" while the partner/boss/child/ -- or other essential

person -- remains nearby .

 his kind of tribal freeze-out, or Abandonment by non-recognition, commonly occurs when Shani

occupies a dushthamsha angle from the mahadasha pati. The effect of being cut off from

essential nourishing resources is felt Acutelywhether one lives in a posh Manhattan condo or

deep in the steamy jungle.

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 Worst case of see-it-but-can't-get-it, is probably when Shani occupies 3rd-from-Budha, or 6th-

from-Shukra, or 12th-from-Surya.

 Shani is a survival voice which interprets ego development as a dangerous distraction from the

work at hand. Shani destroys Surya-supported individual identity through destroying the

supportive human relationships that flatter the ego. (Remember Surya-Shani are enemies).

 So, Shani is not nice to the ego - but Shani usually does not need to destroy the physical body in

order to oppress the ego.

Shani periods Compared to Ketu periods:

Ketu Mahadasha + the bhukti periods of Ketu can give quite similar results to the description of Shani

above. Isolation, self-concern, fear, survival pressure etc. are also attributes of Ketu.

 However Shani periods produce a pulsing physical survival signal from the reptile brain. Shani

periods focus attention on acquiring and defending one's hoard. Whether the need is material

(food, clothing, shelter, money) or psychic (creativity, space, free time, privacy) one feels a

powerful obligation to feed that need.

 By contrast, Ketu is detached, disconnected, and apathetic. Ketu feels no survival drive. Ketu

tends to accept fate, wandering aimlessly, hopeless and often deranged.

 Shani periods are practical, materialistic, and self-concerned. Although Shani periods can be

very difficult physically and emotionally, Shani periods are rarely permanently crippling. Shani

strengthens the moral judgment and create a more solid foundation for better times in the


 Ketu has no sense of separate self, so being cut off from other selves is rather a non-starter for

Ketu. Ketu doesn't care about food, clothing, and shelter. Ketu is out of touch with the physical

body. Ketu does not hear the reptile brain signal except very faintly, and usually only then if

Ketu is associated with Shani.

 Shani periods keep one focused on defending his fortress. Ketu periods typically involve

wandering. Ketu periods may create a pattern of physical, emotional, or mental wandering - the

energetic level at which the wandering occurs will be defined by Ketu's house, His lord, and any

drishti coming to Ketu from other graha. But in general the physical wandering component as in

"pilgrimage" is fairly strong, esp. if Ketu is angular.

 By contrast to Shani, and Ketu knows nothing about boundaries. Ketu is open and "trusting" --

but not trusting in the sense of expecting a specific, predictable result from a defined

relationship. With Shani, relationships may be highly negative as in predatory and recognition-

denying, but Shani is clear and firm on this cause-and-effect relationship. Shani is a clear if

negative thinker.


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